tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232379321118598496.post6847027308909963367..comments2023-10-29T02:30:23.642-07:00Comments on Calvin On Tap: churchapreneurs: they are killing the churchJohn Sawtellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04570490352354572664noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232379321118598496.post-53855386632440515662009-01-22T06:57:00.000-08:002009-01-22T06:57:00.000-08:00MesaThanks for the tip; see what happens when you ...Mesa<BR/>Thanks for the tip; see what happens when you put a preacher in charge of tech stuff?<BR/><BR/>Thanks for checking out calvin on tap! Spread the word.John Sawtellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570490352354572664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232379321118598496.post-38314576487048683702009-01-21T09:44:00.000-08:002009-01-21T09:44:00.000-08:00Pastor Sawtelle,I've been enjoying reading this en...Pastor Sawtelle,<BR/><BR/>I've been enjoying reading this enlightening series on "churchapreneurs" and the megachurches they run. Do continue!<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>As an aside: The labels you attach to your posts should be separated by commas, otherwise the system takes the whole string of words as a single label. Also, in my opinion, every post in this series oughtta have the "churchapreneurs" label.<BR/><BR/>Again, thanks. <BR/>I'm eagerly awaiting the next episode.Mike Westfallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944727980772754938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232379321118598496.post-33095100447625565862009-01-21T07:29:00.000-08:002009-01-21T07:29:00.000-08:00VicYes, I will probably offer a few remarks about ...Vic<BR/>Yes, I will probably offer a few remarks about how Driscol is not the Reformed answer to churchapreneurs. I do think he almost takes a post all to himself, not because he is some deep, but because he has so thoroughly blurred distinctions that it takes a bit of work to unravel all his nonsense.John Sawtellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570490352354572664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232379321118598496.post-51958391641339472722009-01-20T13:43:00.000-08:002009-01-20T13:43:00.000-08:00Pastor Sawtelle: Unpleasant reading? Yes, but ne...Pastor Sawtelle: Unpleasant reading? Yes, but necessary, especially when experimentation in "presentation" apart from Biblical requirements not only saps the virility out of worship and reverence toward the Divine Majesty, it sacrifices the historic and Biblical requirement of catechesis to feel-good monologues from which exegesis is expunged! CharlesCB in Cahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17225113241202471270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232379321118598496.post-48766004423195848142009-01-20T10:12:00.000-08:002009-01-20T10:12:00.000-08:00"'The megachurch story is not really about growth,..."'The megachurch story is not really about growth, it's about shifting allegiances.' (same article) If trends continue, the success of the churchapreneurs will actually be, that though their own businesses grow, there will actually be fewer churches, and fewer Christians in the U.S."<BR/><BR/>--Very interesting concept. I never thought about this. <BR/><BR/>"Make no mistake about it though, this change in worship style is a calculated business decision, not a principled change in style based upon careful investigation of God's commands for worship."<BR/><BR/>--Damn right it's a business decision! These folks don't go to scripture to find what God's commands are in regards to worship but to polls and surveys to shape their services in order to attract the masses.<BR/><BR/>"In our next article we will outline a Reformed response to churchapreneuers as we bring our series to conclusion."<BR/><BR/>--What?! You're not going to comment on the "Reformed churchapraneurs," the Mark Discrolls of this world?<BR/><BR/>On an aside, why do you think these megachurches and churchapraneurs see so much apparent "success" in our nation? Does the O.T. or N.T. have any chiding remarks about this?Vichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02489800522182889706noreply@blogger.com